Interview with Tom Lin

Against Studios: First of all, what does Ergo [Sum] mean? 

Tom Lin: Ergo sum is Latin for “Therefore I am”, from the quote “Cogito, ergo sum” by Rene Descartes, which translates to the famous phrase “I think, therefore I am”. It also serves as a hidden meaning in the manga, that hopefully will become obvious near the end.

AS: What inspired you to make this manga?

TL: It originally started as an experiment manga I was going to do, which involved asking someone I knew to name me their top 10 favorite animes and then make a manga that combines ten aspects from those animes that I liked. Ergo [Sum] was the result of the ten animes that my brother chose for me, and the project just sort of progressed and evolved from there.

AS: Which ten titles did your brother choose for the experiment?

TL: Perfect Blue, Bleach, Tenchi Muyo, Ranma 1/2, Ghost in the Shell, Macross Plus, Key the metal idol, Please save my earth, Dragon Ball, Chobits.

AS: In the author’s note at the back of the manga, you mentioned that the character of Eiji Shinrow and his frustrations and characterization evolved from your frustrations with your move to another department at work. How did that change the direction the manga in the end, did it alter the original idea you had for the manga at all?

TL: Well, the main basic plot and idea is still there, but the characters and their interactions are now richer due to the fact that I’ve included my own frustrations in there. Since they are the emotions I felt while drawing them, they seemed more real when it was expressed on the character themselves. Also, it added a new level of alienation and awkwardness to Eiji’s own chaotic life that made the story more rich and complex, and maybe to some point a realism that most characters don’t achieve.

AS: As you also mentioned in your author’s note, the characters in Ergo [Sum] are based off real people that you know. Does that go for the locales that they visit also?

TL: Well, you could say that they’re all just mixtures and jumbles of real places I visited, I guess. The Three Cloves Irish Bar is sort of based off the little dingy Irish bars that I frequent often around Columbus, Ohio, which I always loved because of the atmosphere you get from them, and the fact that you could actually go there after work and not have to scream in order to hold a conversation.

AS: How do you see the story progressing in the next ten volumes or so?

TL: My plan is to hopefully not show any ERGO’s at all until the fifth volume, to keep teasing the audience with crimes that humans do instead of actually showing the creatures that are named even on the title itself. But I doubt that’ll fly really well, so we’ll see how it goes. I would like to put priority over developing the characters over the plot itself though, because these will be the center spotlights of the series, and if they’re not interesting, nothing they do will be.

That, and I think I’ve got a lot of angst still from my work, so it’s a nice way to work it out.

AS: Ergo [Sum] has a very different approach from your other manga, Dark Signs, was this done on purpose?

TL: Well, they’re both approaching different genres. Dark Signs is more in the veins of a Hollywood action movie, which was the way I wanted to do it since day one, while Ergo [Sum] falls more into the mystery thriller genre, in where the words and the mystery keeps the audience glued to the story, not the action itself. Ergo [Sum] is more of the way I usually do comics though, word balloon’s everywhere and just enough art to borderline-call it a comic, since I’m still more of a writer than an artist myself, as you can see from my horrible art.

AS: Do you see the world expanding beyond the storyline of Ergo [Sum]?

TL: I actually would like to do a prequel based on the series, something that would contrast the mood of Ergo [Sum], sort of like what AD Police did for Bubblegum Crisis, in where AD was more of a gritty cyberpunk police anime, while Bubblegum was a gritty cyberpunk superhero anime. I’ve always strived to do something like AD Police, in where all taboo subjects are thrown into open for the audience, while leaving a lingering thought as the credits roll around. That’s what I hope to accomplish with Ergo [Sum].

AS: What made you want to make a cyberpunk noir manga?

TL: It may have started when DZ and I were going to do a cyberpunk-ish story before, called Cerberus. We were both bummed about the lack of both cyberpunk and noir, and wanted to do something that could maybe resurge the interest in it. So DZ came up with this entire world of virtual reality tied in to the real world, controlling the way things went. This may have been the seed for Ergo [Sum] itself. I mean, I can actually see Ergo [Sum] fit into the universe that Cerberus was in, so it could have been a side story of sorts if we had gotten Cerberus out.

AS: What is your next project?

TL: Right now, I’m still working on Babylon’s Run’s manga adaptation for the site. I’ve shown it to Weasel Films (The film group which are doing the short film based on Tom’s script), who seemed to love it enough to push me to finish it. The film should be pretty different from what the comic comes out as, so it will be interesting to compare both and see how everything comes out. I may also continue Ergo [Sum] as an online effort, as well as finally pushing myself to start and finish a novel.

AS: So, what was your favorite scene in the manga?

TL: Hard to say, since the whole thing feels like a whole scene to me. But if I have to choose, I guess the bar would be the scene, since I pretty much just put out all my frustrations at work on there, so it worked out as a nice free shrink-less therapeutic session for me.

AS: Thank you for your time, and we look forward to the next volume.

TL: Thanks, hope to not disappoint!

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